{"id":1491,"date":"2016-01-16T19:25:26","date_gmt":"2016-01-16T19:25:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/?p=1491"},"modified":"2016-03-13T19:52:29","modified_gmt":"2016-03-13T19:52:29","slug":"warped-science-interstellar-46-time-dilation-penrose-process","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2016\/01\/16\/warped-science-interstellar-46-time-dilation-penrose-process\/","title":{"rendered":"The Warped Science of Interstellar (4\/6) : Time dilation and Penrose process"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Sequel of the preceding post <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2016\/01\/10\/warped-science-interstellar-36-accretion-disk-tidal-stress\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Warped Science of Interstellar (3\/6)<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">In november\u00a0 2014, the Hollywood blockbuster and science-fiction movie <em>Interstellar <\/em>was released on screens and\u00a0 much mediatic excitation arose about it.<br \/>\nThis is the fourth of a series of 6 posts devoted to the analysis of some of the scientific aspects of the film, adapted from a paper I published last spring in<a href=\"http:\/\/inference-review.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Inference : International Review of Science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>A HUGE TIME DILATION<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The elasticity of time is a major consequence of relativity theory, according to which time runs differently for two observers with a relative acceleration \u2013 or, from the Equivalence Principle, moving in gravitational fields of different intensities. This well-known phenomenon, checked experimentally to high accuracy, is called \u00ab\u00a0time dilation\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1548\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1548\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1548\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/dali-montre-450x356.jpg\" alt=\"The celebrated &quot;smooth watches&quot; by Salvador Dali are a nice metaphor of time elasticity predicted by Einstein's relativity theory.\" width=\"450\" height=\"356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/dali-montre-450x356.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/dali-montre.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1548\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The celebrated &#8220;smooth watches&#8221; by Salvador Dali are a nice metaphor of time elasticity predicted by Einstein&#8217;s relativity theory.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Thus, close to the event horizon of a black hole, where the gravitational field is huge, time dilation is also huge, because the clocks will be strongly slowed down compared to farther clocks. This is one of the most stunning elements of the scenario of <em>Interstellar<\/em>\u00a0: on the water planet so close to Gargantua, it is claimed that 1 hour in the planet\u2019s reference frame corresponds to 7 years in an observer\u2019s reference frame far from the black hole (for instance on Earth). This corresponds to a time dilation factor of 60,000. Although the time dilation tends to infinity when a clock tends to the event horizon (this is precisely why no signal can leave it to reach any external observer), at first sight a time dilation as large as 60,000 seems impossible for a planet orbiting the black hole on a stable orbit.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">As explained by Thorne in his popular book, such a large time dilation was a \u00ab\u00a0non-negotiable\u00a0\u00bb request of the film director, for the needs of the story. Intuitively, even an expert in general relativity would estimate impossible to reconcile an enormous time differential with a planet skimming up the event horizon and safely enduring the correspondingly enormous gravitational forces. However Thorne did a few hours of calculations and came to the conclusion that in fact it was marginally possible (although very unlikely). The key point is the black hole\u2019s spin. A rotating black hole, described by the Kerr metric, behaves rather differently from a static one, described by the Schwarzschild metric. The time dilation equation derived from the Kerr metric takes the form:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">1 \u2013 (d\u03c4\/dt)<sup>2<\/sup> = 2GMr\/c<sup>2<\/sup>rho<sup>2<\/sup>, where rho<sup>2<\/sup> = r<sup>2<\/sup> + (J\/Mc)<sup>2<\/sup>cos<sup>2<\/sup>\u03b8.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><!--more-->Substituting for d\u03c4 = 1 hour and dt = 7 years, one obtains the following relation:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1547\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/formule-dilation-450x75.jpg\" alt=\"formule-dilation\" width=\"378\" height=\"63\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/formule-dilation-450x75.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/formule-dilation.jpg 460w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 378px) 100vw, 378px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">This equation fully describes a black hole of mass M, rotating with angular momentum J, as observed by an observer at radial coordinate r and angular coordinate \u03b8. The fraction on the right-hand-side fully depicts the 1 hour = 7 years dilation effect. For the Schwarzschild metric, the orbital radius should be no smaller than 3 times the gravitational radius, and such a time dilation could not be achieved for the planet of the film. But as already said, the Kerr metric allows for stable orbits much closer to the event horizon. Calculations indicate that for M = 10<sup>8<\/sup> solar masses, we get r = 1.48&#215;10<sup>13<\/sup> cm, \u03b8 = \u03c0 and J = 8.80275&#215;10<sup>57<\/sup> J.s. This implies a black hole angular momentum J extraordinarily close (at 10<sup>-10<\/sup>) to the maximal possible value J<sub>max<\/sub>, a circular orbit lying in the equatorial plane and a radius orbit practically equal to the black hole\u2019s gravitational radius. All this is theoretically possible, but by no ways realistic.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1549\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1549\" style=\"width: 436px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1549\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/bhscatter-436x450.png\" alt=\"Le cercle vert repr\u00e9sente la derni\u00e8re orbite circulaire stable autour d'un trou noir. Quand le moment angulaire du trou noir tend vers sa valeur maximale, le cercle vert se rapproche arbitrairement pr\u00e8s de l'horizon du trou noir (cercle noir), permettant ainsi des facteurs de dilatation temporelle \u00e9normes.\" width=\"436\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/bhscatter-436x450.png 436w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/bhscatter.png 696w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 436px) 100vw, 436px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1549\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Le cercle vert repr\u00e9sente la derni\u00e8re orbite circulaire stable autour d&#8217;un trou noir. Quand le moment angulaire du trou noir tend vers sa valeur maximale, le cercle vert se rapproche arbitrairement pr\u00e8s de l&#8217;horizon du trou noir (cercle noir), permettant ainsi des facteurs de dilatation temporelle \u00e9normes.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>A CLEVER USE OF THE PENROSE PROCESS<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1550\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1550\" style=\"width: 258px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-1550\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Roger_Penrose_1-450x446.gif\" alt=\"On doit \u00e0 Roger Penrose (n\u00e9 en 1931) de nombreuses contributions \u00e0 la physique des trous noirs.\" width=\"258\" height=\"256\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Roger_Penrose_1-450x446.gif 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Roger_Penrose_1-150x150.gif 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 258px) 100vw, 258px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1550\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">On doit \u00e0 Roger Penrose (n\u00e9 en 1931) de nombreuses contributions \u00e0 la physique des trous noirs.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Another effect specific to the physics of rotating black holes, which was correctly depicted in <em>Interstellar<\/em>, is the Penrose process. The astronauts use it to benefit of a particularly efficient gravitational assistance (called \u00ab\u00a0slingshot effect\u00a0\u00bb), which allows their spaceship to plunge very close to the event horizon and escape with an increased energy. In effect, the laws of Kerr black hole physics say that, although a black hole prevents any radiation or matter from escaping, it can give up a part of its rotational energy to the external medium.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The key role is played by the <em>ergosphere<\/em>, a region between the event horizon and the static limit below which, like in a maelstrom, space-time itself is irresistibly dragged along with it (the so-called \u00ab\u00a0Lense-Thirring effect\u00a0\u00bb). In a thought experiment, Roger Penrose suggested in 1969 the following mechanism<a href=\"#_edn1\" name=\"_ednref1\">[i]<\/a>. A projectile disintegrates into the ergosphere, one of the fragments falls into the event horizon in a direction opposite to the black hole\u2019s rotation, while the other fragment can leave and be recovered, carrying more energy than the initial projectile. Replace the projectiles by a spaceship which leaves a part of it to fall into the black hole along a carefully chosen retrograde orbit, and <em>le tour est jou\u00e9<\/em>.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1553\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1553\" style=\"width: 331px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1553\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Ergosphere-eng-331x450.jpg\" alt=\"When a projectile disintegrates in the ergosphere and one of the fragments fall into the black hole, the other fragment can leave and be recovered, carrying more energy than the initial projectile.\" width=\"331\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Ergosphere-eng-331x450.jpg 331w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Ergosphere-eng.jpg 630w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 331px) 100vw, 331px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1553\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">When a projectile disintegrates in the ergosphere and one of the fragments fall into the black hole, the other fragment can leave and be recovered, carrying more energy than the initial projectile.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">The calculations indicate that one can extract an energy equivalent to the rest-mass energy of the part lost into the black hole, which, according to the famous formula E=mc<sup>2<\/sup> can already be huge, plus an additional energy extracted from the spinning black hole, which has been slowed down by the infalling fragment in a retrograde orbit. For a black hole like Gargantua, rotating at almost the maximal speed, repeated Penrose processes could extract 29% of its mass.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1554\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1554\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1554\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Energy-extraction-450x341.jpg\" alt=\"Industrial extraction of energy from a black hole\" width=\"450\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Energy-extraction-450x341.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2016\/01\/Energy-extraction.jpg 667w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1554\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Industrial extraction of energy from a black hole<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Go to next post <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2016\/01\/30\/warped-science-interstellar-56-time-machine-fifth-dimension\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Warped Science of Interstellar (5\/6)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>REFERENCES<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\">[i]<\/a> Penrose, R.\u00a0: <em>Gravitational Collapse: the Role of General Relativity<\/em>, Rivista del Nuovo Cimento, Numero Speziale 1, 252 (1969).<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sequel of the preceding post The Warped Science of Interstellar (3\/6) In november\u00a0 2014, the Hollywood blockbuster and science-fiction movie Interstellar was released on screens and\u00a0 much mediatic excitation arose about it. 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