{"id":1486,"date":"2015-12-14T13:30:20","date_gmt":"2015-12-14T13:30:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/?p=1486"},"modified":"2016-01-30T11:36:05","modified_gmt":"2016-01-30T11:36:05","slug":"the-warped-science-of-interstellar-26","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2015\/12\/14\/the-warped-science-of-interstellar-26\/","title":{"rendered":"The Warped Science of Interstellar (2\/6)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Sequel of the preceding post <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2015\/11\/18\/the-warped-science-of-interstellar-16\/\">The Warped Science of Interstellar (1\/6)<\/a><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">One year ago, in november\u00a0 2014, the Hollywood blockbuster and science-fiction movie <em>Interstellar <\/em>was released on screens and\u00a0 much mediatic excitation arose about it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">This is the second of a series of 6 posts devoted to the analysis of some of the scientific aspects of the film, adapted from a paper I published last spring in<a href=\"http:\/\/inference-review.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Inference : International Review of Science<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>THE FAST-SPINNING BLACK HOLE \u00ab\u00a0GARGANTUA\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Once on the other side of the wormhole, the spaceship and its crew emerge into a three-planets system orbiting around a supermassive black hole called Gargantua. Supermassive black holes, with masses going from one million to several billion solar masses, are suspected to lie in the centers of most of the galaxies. Our Milky Way probably harbors such an object, Sagittarius A*, whose mass is (indirectly) measured as 4 million solar masses (for a review, see Melia<a href=\"#_edn1\" name=\"_ednref1\">[i]<\/a>). According to Thorne, Gargantua would be rather similar to the still more massive black hole suspected to be located at the center of the Andromeda galaxy, adding up 100 million solar masses<a href=\"#_edn2\" name=\"_ednref2\">[ii]<\/a>. Its size being roughly proportional to its mass, the radius of such a giant would encompass the Earth\u2019s orbit around the Sun.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_1514\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1514\" style=\"width: 240px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_IR_1al.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1514\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_IR_1al.jpg\" alt=\"CGal_IR_1al\" width=\"240\" height=\"215\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1514\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A view of the Galactic Center in X-rays<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<td>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_1516\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1516\" style=\"width: 213px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_Keck.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1516\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_Keck.jpg\" alt=\"CGal_*Keck\" width=\"213\" height=\"215\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_Keck.jpg 427w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/CGal_Keck-150x150.jpg 150w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 213px) 100vw, 213px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1516\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The analysis of trajectories of stars orbiting around the Galactic Center leads to estimate the mass of the central black hole at about 4 millions solar masses.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_1517\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1517\" style=\"width: 219px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/m31.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1517\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/m31-450x361.jpg\" alt=\"m31\" width=\"219\" height=\"176\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/m31-450x361.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/m31.jpg 736w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 219px) 100vw, 219px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1517\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Andromeda Galaxy (M31), located at 2.2 million light-years<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<td>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_1518\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1518\" style=\"width: 208px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/coeurM31_HST.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1518\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/coeurM31_HST-450x406.jpg\" alt=\"coeurM31_HST\" width=\"208\" height=\"188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/coeurM31_HST-450x406.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/coeurM31_HST.jpg 467w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 208px) 100vw, 208px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1518\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Detailed image of the core of Andromeda Galaxy by the Hubble Space Telescope. The central black hole would have 100 million solar masses.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Such enormous black holes are not a science-fiction exaggeration, since we have the observational clues of the existence of \u00ab\u00a0Behemoth\u00a0\u00bb black holes in faraway galaxies. The biggest one yet detected lies in the galaxy NGC 1277, located at 250 million light-years\u00a0; its mass could be as large as 17 billion solar masses, and its size would encompass the orbit of Neptune<a href=\"#_edn3\" name=\"_ednref3\">[iii]<\/a>.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Another \u2013 and very important \u2013 characteristic of Gargantua is that it is a fast-spinning black hole. All the objects in the universe \u2013 except the universe itself \u2013 rotate. Thus a natural black hole must do so, and be described by the Kerr geometry. The latter now depends on two parameters\u00a0: the black hole mass M and its angular momentum J. An important difference with usual stars, which are in differential rotation, is that the Kerr black holes are rotating with perfect rigidity\u00a0: all the points on their surface (the event horizon) move with the same angular velocity. There is however a critical angular momentum J<sub>max<\/sub> above which the event horizon would \u00ab\u00a0break up\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0: this limit corresponds to the horizon having a spin velocity equal to the speed of light. For such a black hole, called \u00ab\u00a0extremal\u00a0\u00bb, the gravitational field at the event horizon would cancel, because the inward pull of gravity would be compensated by the huge repulsive centrifugal forces.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">It is quite possible that most of the black holes formed in the real universe have an angular momentum rather close to this critical limit. For instance, a typical stellar black hole of 3 solar masses, believed to be the engine of many binary X-ray sources, must rotate at almost 5000 revolutions per second.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1520\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1520\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/cygx1.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1520 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/cygx1-450x279.jpg\" alt=\"On the left, an optical image from the Digitized Sky Survey shows Cygnus X-1, outlined in a red box. Cygnus X-1 is located near large active regions of star formation in the Milky Way, as seen in this image that spans some 700 light years across. An artist's illustration on the right depicts what astronomers think is happening within the Cygnus X-1 system. Cygnus X-1 is a so-called stellar-mass black hole, a class of black holes that comes from the collapse of a massive star. New studies with data from Chandra and several other telescopes have determined the black hole's spin, mass, and distance with unprecedented accuracy.\" width=\"450\" height=\"279\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/cygx1-450x279.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/cygx1.jpg 605w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1520\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In a binary X-ray source (here, an artist&#8217;s view), the stellar mass black hole could rotate as fast as 5,000 rounds per second.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">For reasons that will be explained later, the black hole Gargantua shown in <em>Interstellar<\/em> was assumed to have an angular momentum as close as 10<sup>-10<\/sup> to the critical value J<sub>max<\/sub>. If theoretically possible, this configuration is physically quite unrealistic, because the more a black hole rotates fast, the more the material orbiting in the same direction is hard to capture, due to the centrifugal forces, while the matter orbiting in the opposite sense is easily sucked into the hole, where it slows the spin. As a consequence, a too-fast spinning black hole would have the tendency to slow down to an equilibrium velocity smaller than that of Gargantua (general relativistic calculations say that black holes spin no faster than about 0.998 J<sub>max<\/sub>).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">However, the advantage of a very fast-spinning black hole is that it permits to have planets orbiting extremely close to the event horizon without being swallowed. And this is a key point of the movie, for it also allows for a huge time dilation, see below. For a Schwarzschild black hole (i.e. with angular momentum J=0), the innermost stable circular orbit, inside which any object would spiral and crash into the black hole, is located at 3 times the black hole radius. For a 100 million solar masses black hole, this gives a minimum distance of 900 million kilometers (a little bit more than Jupiter\u2019s distance to the Sun). But for a Kerr black hole spinning very close to the critical limit J<sub>max<\/sub>, the innermost stable circular orbit can be as close as the event horizon itself\u00a0: 100 million kilometers only. It is the reason why, in <em>Interstellar<\/em>, the closest planet (called Miller) can orbit safely very close to the event horizon without being swallowed.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Another noticeable point is that a Kerr black hole is not a spinning top revolving in a fixed exterior space\u00a0: as it rotates, it drags the entire fabric of space-time along with it. As a consequence, Miller\u2019s planet must orbit at a velocity close to the speed of light.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1521\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1521\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/F11.2-FrameDragging.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1521 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/F11.2-FrameDragging-450x338.jpg\" alt=\"F11.2-FrameDragging\" width=\"450\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/F11.2-FrameDragging-450x338.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/F11.2-FrameDragging-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/F11.2-FrameDragging.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1521\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A rotating black hole drags the neighboring spacetime itself (Lense-Thirring effect).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>ILLUMINATED PLANETS\u00a0?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">All right for the gravitational safety of the three-planets system around Gargantua. But where do these planets get heat and light? In principle a star is needed for that, but there is no star around. Heat cannot come from the black hole itself in the form of the Hawking radiation or the recently advanced \u00ab\u00a0firewall\u00a0\u00bb phenomenon<a href=\"#_edn4\" name=\"_ednref4\">[iv]<\/a>\u00a0: these effects being purely quantum in nature, they could be noticeable for microscopic black holes, but are completely negligible for astrophysical ones. Can light and heat come from the gaseous ring that orbits around Gargantua, called an accretion disk\u00a0?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1523\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1523\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/BH_wip_v18_1080p_planet-450x253.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1523 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/BH_wip_v18_1080p_planet-450x253-450x253.jpg\" alt=\"BH_wip_v18_1080p_planet-450x253\" width=\"450\" height=\"253\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1523\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">In Interstellar, planet Miller orbits extremely close to the surface of the giant black hole Gargantua, and is supposed to be illuminated by the accretion disk.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">Such an explanation is not very consistent with the rest of the story, because later in the movie Cooper inevitably has to go inside the black hole, and he does not get fried. The theory of accretion disks around black holes was actually developed decades ago (for a review, see Abramowicz<a href=\"#_edn5\" name=\"_ednref5\">[v]<\/a>) and are in agreement with recent astrophysical measurements using gravitational lensing<a href=\"#_edn6\" name=\"_ednref6\">[vi]<\/a>. Because of the incredible forces involved, accretion disks are extremely hot, like millions of degrees hot. They are so brilliant that they can be seen millions of light-years away, and blast out enough radiation to completely destroy any normal material. Thus the astronauts would have been fried as soon as they emerged from the wormhole. Happily for the continuation of the story, it was not the case. So, how the planets can be habitable despite no nearby source of warmth\u00a0?<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1522\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1522\" style=\"width: 450px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/AGN_wJets.big_.cut_.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox[1486]\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1522 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/AGN_wJets.big_.cut_-450x311.jpg\" alt=\"AGN_wJets.big_.cut_\" width=\"450\" height=\"311\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/AGN_wJets.big_.cut_-450x311.jpg 450w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/AGN_wJets.big_.cut_-1024x707.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/11\/2015\/12\/AGN_wJets.big_.cut_.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1522\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">An artist&#8217;s view of an accretion disk around a supermassive black hole<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\">In his popular book as well as in various interviews, Thorne claimed that the light could come from a very \u00ab\u00a0anemic\u00a0\u00bb accretion disk, that has cooled down to the temperature of the Sun basically (5500 \u00b0C). Here \u00ab\u00a0anemic\u00a0\u00bb means that the disk has not been fed by new gas (coming for instance from a tidally disrupted star, see below) in the last million years, and that the accretion rate onto the black hole, a critical parameter on which depends the disk luminosity, is extremely low. In that sense, such a quiescent accretion disk could be relatively safe for humans. But I doubt that it could provide enough light and heat to the planet, like the Sun to us, just because an anemic accretion disk would also be optically thin (<em>i.e.<\/em> transparent), while the Sun\u2019s photosphere is optically thick (<em>i.e.<\/em> opaque).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><strong>Go to the next post <a href=\"https:\/\/blogs.futura-sciences.com\/e-luminet\/2016\/01\/10\/warped-science-interstellar-36-accretion-disk-tidal-stress\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Warped Science of Interstellar (3\/6)<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000\"><a style=\"color: #000000\" href=\"#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\">REFERENCES<\/a><\/span><\/h6>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref1\" name=\"_edn1\">[i]<\/a> F. Melia\u00a0: <em>The Galactic Supermassive Black Hole<\/em>. Princeton: Princeton University Press (2007).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref2\" name=\"_edn2\">[ii]<\/a> R. Bender al.\u00a0: <em>HST STIS Spectroscopy of the Triple Nucleus of M31: Two Nested Disks in Keplerian Rotation around a Supermassive Black Hole<\/em>. Astrophysical Journal <strong>631<\/strong> (1): 280\u2013300 (2005).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref3\" name=\"_edn3\">[iii]<\/a> R. van den Bosch et al.\u00a0: <em>An over-massive black hole in the compact lenticular galaxy NGC 1277<\/em>, Nature <strong>491<\/strong>, 729 (2012).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref4\" name=\"_edn4\">[iv]<\/a> A. Almheiri, D. Marolf, J. Polchinski and J. Sully\u00a0: <em>Black holes: complementarity or firewalls?<\/em> Journal of High Energy Physics <strong>2013<\/strong> (2).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref5\" name=\"_edn5\">[v]<\/a> M. A. Abramowicz and P. Chris Fragile\u00a0: <em>Foundations of Black Hole Accretion Disk Theory<\/em>, Living Rev. Relativity, 16 (2013)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify\"><a href=\"#_ednref6\" name=\"_edn6\">[vi]<\/a> S. Poindexter et al.\u00a0: <em>The Spatial Structure of An Accretion Disk<\/em>, The Astrophysical Journal, <strong>673<\/strong> (1): 34 (2008).<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sequel of the preceding post The Warped Science of Interstellar (1\/6) One year ago, in november\u00a0 2014, the Hollywood blockbuster and science-fiction movie Interstellar was released on screens and\u00a0 much mediatic excitation arose about it. 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